Personal Experiences

Personal Experiences

Click on any of the names below to link to their stories:

Tom Cabeen
James Penton
Rud Persson
Alan Feuerbacher
Peter Gregerson
Achille Aveta
Poul Bregninge
Nestor&Toni Kuilan
Duane Magnani
Carl Olof Jonsson
Jean Eason
Joan Cetnar
Ray Franz
Randy Watters
Richard Rawe
Max Hatton
Marilyn Marsh
Ron Frye
Ron Reed

We are happy to have received several submissions from persons who have had a lot of experience related to their research about Watch Tower doctrines, including the 1914 teaching.  In some cases these are experiences about their own reaction to their discoveries including the reaction of others when they questioned the doctrines. Where noted, we  have also accepted articles from persons who have written tributes for persons they knew personally, who are either deceased, or who are currently undergoing health issues and could not participate themselves.

New! Important CHANGES in March 15th, 2015 Watchtower, Explained & Clarified

Articles in this series:

If you are one of those few people who REALLY keeps up with the recent changes to current doctrines among JWs, then you should appreciate the upcoming series of articles we are about to post on the subject. If you are one who does NOT always keep up with the recent changes to current doctrines among the JWs then you should REALLY appreciate these articles even more.

There are a some specific doctrinal changes spelled out in the March 15, 2015 Watchtower (the “Study Edition” available on the JW.ORG website).  But the biggest, most important change is about a method for explaining Scripture that will affect many more doctrines than the specific examples mentioned in the magazine.

With this issue, literally thousands of pages of previously printed doctrinal material are rendered obsolete. It also sets a new direction for Bible commentary in The Watchtower that has the potential to completely “reset” SEVERAL of the unique doctrines of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and MOST of the prophetic interpretations. Even the chronological interpretations are at risk of becoming obsolete.  (For example, until the last decade, “1918” was taught as a prophetically significant date that was once mentioned just about as often as 1919 was mentioned. Yet, many JWs are not even aware that 1918 has already been quietly dropped as a prophetically significant date, for reasons that are aligned with the changes set forth in this March 15, 2015 issue.)

To get an idea of how sweeping the general change already is, you would have to know just how much prior doctrine is affected by these sentences from the March 15th Watchtower:

“In times past, it was more common for our literature to take what might be called a type-antitype approach to Scriptural accounts.” (p.3) “Humans cannot know which Bible accounts are shadows of things to come and which are not. The clearest course is this: Where the Scriptures teach that an individual, an event, or an object is typical of something else, we accept it as such. Otherwise, we ought to be reluctant to assign an antitypical application to a certain person or account if there is no specific Scriptural basis for doing so.” (p.18)

The following is a list of 42 of these “prophecies” or “prophetic dramas” found in one of the Watchtower publications that we (JWs) actively taught and studied when I was a younger Witness. Most of these have never been dismissed and they still represented accurate doctrine until now. Learning these teachings took up a large portion of the curriculum for the students of the Watchtower Bible School of Gilead while I was at Bethel from 1976 to 1980. One of the weekly meetings, the “Congregation Book Study,” was often devoted entirely to discussions of this type.

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Also note that the 42 examples listed only include those that specified the “great crowd” who would have an earthly hope instead of the “anointed” with the heavenly hope. Because these “prophetic dramas” have been emphasized less, especially in the last couple of decades, many Witnesses didn’t realize that most of these explanations were still “on the books.” In other words they were still considered valid, correct doctrines. At least until now.

DIDN’T THEY TRY THIS BEFORE?

It probably sounds like hyperbole to attach such a potential significance to these new changes. However, we have an excellent reason to believe that these changes are indicative of more changes underway. What’s that reason? Simple. We saw what happened when they tried this before. The Watch Tower Society didn’t try it officially, because not everyone was on board with it. Nevertheless, beginning in the late 1960’s and 1970’s, several members of the Writing Department were already reading Bible narratives and writing and teaching about their meaning in the exact way described in this new issue of the Watchtower.

In fact, the idea of changing this teaching method already came up during the research and writing of the Watch Tower’s first Bible dictionary, Aid to Bible Understanding, completed in 1971. This “Aid Book” as we called it (now slightly revised as Insight on the Scriptures) is nearly devoid of types and antitypes. By 1972, the research behind the Aid Book had already resulted in major changes to the Watch Tower organizational structure, including a re-definition of what the governing body would soon become, and the new “elder arrangement,” which was just being put into place. The following is from an article in the August 15, 1972 Watchtower that reflects some of the thinking on this subject at the time:

*** w72 8/15 p. 502 God Readjusts the Thinking of His People ***
Another thing that has given rise to questions is the use by Jehovah’s witnesses of parallels or prophetic types, applying these to circumstances and to groups or classes of people today. Many people who read the Bible view its accounts all as simply history, but when they begin to study with Jehovah’s witnesses a readjustment of viewpoint takes place as they see that there is more to the accounts than history.

The question that is sometimes asked is, Did Jehovah stage that ‘dramatic’ event, so that we would have a warning now? Well, would he cause such bad things to happen? Would he maneuver them himself? No. …

It helps us to understand more fully when we keep in mind that the people in ancient times were real, living their daily lives in association with their families and fellowmen, having hopes and desires as we do today, the same general problems with sin working in their members, and many of them faithfully waging a fine fight to serve God.

The article just quoted actually tried to play both sides of the issue in order to introduce the change but also dismiss the need to make too many changes at once. (The 1972 article tended to favor the “type-antitype” status quo.) During the late 1970’s, the brothers in Writing who were the most productive and who were the most capable of Biblical research included the brothers who had worked on the Aid Book, and by that point in time had already been getting assignments to write Watchtower articles on many Bible topics. These articles tended to minimize the “type-antitype” pattern.

Not all Watchtower writers agreed with this change. However, many letters were received that thanked the Watchtower Society for producing these “refreshing and clear” articles that “make it easier to apply the Bible in our daily lives as Jehovah’s Christian witnesses.”

The brothers in Writing who had helped with the Aid Book had become especially involved in those new articles with the “refreshing” style, as some called it. One of these brothers had an excellent knowledge of the Biblical languages, including not just Hebrew but also Aramaic and Syriac. Another other one could write an article in minutes on almost any Bible topic, pretty much from memory, and those articles could usually be used in the Watchtower without any edits or changes. Their work was approved through the appropriate review committee(s), including Governing Body members, and resulted in dozens of Watchtower articles, and several books, which are still easily identifiable by their style when looking through the bound volumes of the Watchtower from those years, or the Watchtower Library CD. Two books were written in this same “refreshing” style in a Bible commentary format. Those two books, Commentary on the Letter of James and Choosing the Best Way of Life (which was a commentary on 1st and 2nd Peter) were released at the summer District Assemblies in 1979. They became the first major examples of books that scrupulously avoided “type-antitype” patterns, even when touching upon subjects that had previously required it. This includes an “untypical” reference to the “faithful and discreet slave” that called upon all Christians to be this sort of person. A recently deceased brother who had been at Bethel during the period described it to Randall Watters like this:

 “There were a couple new books published that were nothing like the typical FWFranzesque prophetic calculus manuals. These books were not typical fare, and you could see the puzzled looks when they reached the book study groups and meetings. Biblical commentary within scriptural context…”

Unfortunately, the Watch Tower Society in general was not yet ready for this type of reading and writing about the Bible narratives. “Heads rolled” when the significance of those changes was noticed by “old school” supporters of these now obsolete doctrinal methods. This included the two mentioned above, and a few others, too, who were not disfellowshipped, but who were dismissed from Bethel. However, this March 15, 2015 issue of The Watchtower now renders that “old school” doctrinal pattern obsolete. The pattern utilized in the Aid Book and in subsequent Watchtower articles and books for the next 7 years, especially from 1976 through 1980 is now considered ‘the way Jehovah approved.’ (Watchtower 3/15/2015 p.7,8)

While we cannot vouch for the exact numerical claims in the quote below, one person has put it this way, on a site where JWs often discuss issues with other JWs:

Now, with this article, nearly half the Watchtower articles that Rutherford wrote (since about 1931) and about a quarter of the Watchtower study articles that Fred Franz wrote (since 1942 – under Knorr) have been downgraded. When I worked with the Gilead students we were still spending about half their time going over these old Bible stories to make sure they understood when the anointed class was meant and when the great crowd was meant. (Anyone who has a copy of the Gilead Notes from up to about 1980 will know what I mean.)

Historically, I find that very interesting, but from a progressive perspective, it was bound to happen now that there is less concern about distinguishing anointed from other sheep, I find it quite refreshing that we no longer need to be worried that we draw the right application to the various people in so many of these Bible accounts.

If you do not have the magazine in printed format, it is available at the following location on jw.org:

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20150315/

That link (on the JW.org site) displays a page that has the following articles listed. Over the next few weeks we will provide a commentary on each of them and link the titles to our commented versions of these articles.

THE WATCHTOWER (STUDY EDITION) MARCH 2015

“This Is the Way You Approved”

Why have our publications in recent years often given simpler, clearer explanations of some Bible accounts?

Will You “Keep on the Watch”? 

Read this clarified understanding of Jesus’ parable of the ten virgins, which focuses on the parable’s simple, urgent message. 

Questions From Readers

In the past, our publications often mentioned types and antitypes, but in recent years they have seldom done so. Why is that? 

Learn From the Illustration of the Talents 

This article refines our understanding of the parable of the talents.

Loyally Supporting Christ’s Brothers 

How do those whom Christ judges to be sheep support his brothers?

In attempting to comment on those Watchtower articles listed above, this site will attempt to cover each of the articles listed above that cover the updated doctrines.

Watch for the following subjects to be covered across the five articles:

  • The Prior Importance of the “Type Anti-Type” Approach
  • The Good Samaritan – Type-Antitype method reviewed
  • Naboth, Ahab, Jezebel – Type-Antitype method reviewed
  • The Prodigal Son – Type-Antitype method reviewed
  • Elijah and Elisha – Type-Antitype method reviewed
  • The Ten Virgins – Type-Antitype method reviewed
  • The Talents – Type-Antitype method reviewed
  • What happened at Bethel when this same approach was used as an aid to Bible understanding?
  • How can this approach potentially change the explanation of the “Faithful and Discreet Slave”?
  • What will this approach do to the method of explaining all prophecies in Isaiah, Jeremiah and other prophetic books with a formula linking any mention of faithful kings, priests and prophets to the faithful anointed in our day, or linking unfaithful ones to Christendom, or linking any mention of captivity to the imprisonment of Rutherford and others in 1918/1919, etc.?
  • What can this approach do to the “anti-type” fulfillment of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream and the 1914 teaching?
  • Will this ultimately make 1919 go the way of 1918? (As mentioned, 1918 was once a large part of Watch Tower doctrine and it has been gradually but effectively dismissed over the last several years.)
  • Will this ultimately make the current distinction between Great Crowd and Anointed less important?

An Alternative Conversation With A Neighbor – Watchtower, October 2014

Contributed by Ann O’Maly
The contrived and unrealistic conversation that one of Jehovah’s Witnesses imagined having with a neighbor in the October 2014 Watchtower will not be reproduced here. Instead let us imagine another conversation another Witness named Andre (ahem, sorry) Cameron has at the home of another man who is also named Jon.
“KEEP SEARCHING” FOR A SUCKER

Cameron: Jon, I’ve really enjoyed the regular discussions we’ve been having about the Bible.* The last time we spoke, you raised a question about God’s Kingdom. You asked why Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the Kingdom began ruling in the year 1914.

*Accepting free home “Bible” studies means you’ll often have Jehovah’s Witnesses bothering you for years.

Jon: Yes, I was reading one of your flimsy leaflets, and it said that God’s Kingdom started ruling in 1914. That made me curious because I can’t remember ever seeing a passage in the Bible that mentioned the year 1914. So I went to an online Bible and did a search for “1914.” Sure enough, the search engine said: “0 results.”

Cameron: I have to patronize you now by patting you on the head and saying ‘Well done, you’ for knowing how to read and for being able to use a website search engine. Have a cookie.

Jon: Thank you. I do want to keep learning. In fact, I flipped through this book you’ve been trying to convert me with and I found some information on 1914. It mentions a wacked out dream that some Babylonian king had over 2 millennia ago about a big tree that was cut down and then grew back … or something like that.

Cameron: Ah, yes. Daniel chapter 4. It involves a dream that King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon had.

Jon: Didn’t I just say that? Yes, that’s the one. I read the prophecy over and over. But to be honest, I still don’t see what it has to do with God’s Kingdom or the year 1914.

Cameron: Actually, Jon, you will come to see how obvious it is.

Jon: Really?

Cameron: Yes.

Jon: OK …

Cameron: Don’t feel too bad. Not even Daniel understood what he was talking about. Allow me to divert attention away from your question and lay some groundwork for mindlessly accepting what I say. It was not yet God’s time to reveal the true meaning of Daniel’s prophecy. But now, in our time, we can understand more fully. Daniel 12:9 says: “The words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end.” So these prophecies would only be understood much later when Jehovah’s Witnesses came on the scene. And as we will soon discuss in our “Bible” (*wink*) study, all evidence indicates that we are God’s chosen people.*

*Come with us if you want to live.

Jon: Um, I need to go now …

Cameron: No, I’ve not finished with you. Don’t try to run or I’ll sit on you.

A LESSON IN EISEGESIS

Cameron: To begin, let me briefly summarize what King Nebuchadnezzar saw in his dream. Then we can talk about what it means.

Jon: *nervously looking around for available exits*

Cameron: In the dream, Nebuchadnezzar saw an enormous tree that reached all the way to heaven. Then he heard God’s messenger command that the tree be cut down. However, God said for its rootstock to be left in the ground. After a period of “seven times,” the tree would grow again. This prophecy initially applied to King Nebuchadnezzar himself. Although he was a prominent king—like the tree that reached clear to heaven—he was cut down for “seven times.” Do you remember what happened?

Jon: *Buying time while thinking of a way to escape* No, I don’t recall.

Cameron: You’re not very bright, are you? The Bible shows that Nebuchadnezzar lost his sanity, evidently for seven years.

Jon: (I know the feeling). Um, you say, ‘evidently.’ What’s ‘evident’ about ‘times’ being ‘years’?

Cameron: I shall ignore your question, Jon, because I don’t want to answer it. Anyway, getting back to what I want to talk about … During that time, he was unable to rule as king. But at the end of the seven times, Nebuchadnezzar regained his sanity and started ruling again.

Jon: What does all of this have to do with God’s Kingdom and the year 1914?

Cameron: Nothing at all. So this is where we invent two fulfillments for this prophecy. The first and real fulfillment happened when King Nebuchadnezzar’s rulership was interrupted, as the Bible explicitly says. The second fulfillment involves fabricating a new interpretation where Nebuchadnezzar’s kingdom, notorious for oppressing God’s people, actually represents God’s kingdom. So it is this second made-up fulfillment that is related to God’s Kingdom.

Jon: That’s nuts.

Cameron: Hey, by the time I’ve finished with you, you’ll think it makes perfect sense. For one thing, we contort the prophecy itself. According to Daniel 4:17, the prophecy was given “so that people living may know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind and that he gives it to whomever he wants.” Did you notice the expression “the kingdom of mankind”?

Jon: I’m not a child.

Cameron: Right. But you are dim. Who do you suppose is “the Most High”?

Jon: Ah c’mon. Stop that!

Cameron: Were you thinking it was God? Yes? Good. Well done, you. Have another cookie. So that tells us that this prophecy is not only about Nebuchadnezzar. It also involves “the kingdom of mankind”—that is, God’s rulership over mankind. And that makes sense when we look at the prophecy in its context.

Jon: What the hell are you talking about? So God’s kingdom is represented by both God’s rulership over the ‘kingdom of mankind’ and by Nebuchadnezzar’s rulership that was taken away by God’s rulership over ‘the kingdom of mankind’. Can I go now?

Cameron: No.

THE AGENDA’S CENTRAL THEME

Cameron: Now I’m going to jump away from Daniel 4 and razzle dazzle you with another mind-bending tangent. Would you please read Daniel 2:44?

Jon: OK. …

Cameron: I meant you are to read it out loud to me. It’s an important part of the know-it-all vs. dummy ritual.

Jon: *Sigh* “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever.” Happy now?

Cameron: Thank you. Would you say that this verse sounds as if it is referring to God’s Kingdom?

Jon: Hmph. You think the part where it says ‘the God of heaven will set up a kingdom’ isn’t enough of a clue for me?

Cameron: You’re not nearly as intelligent as I am, so no. Notice that it says that this Kingdom “will stand forever.” That’s true of God’s Kingdom, but it’s not something that we can say of any human government, can we?

Jon: *Taps watch* 1914. Get to 1914.

Cameron: Not yet. I need to ramble on about other prophecies in Daniel first and ask you inane questions to make you look like an imbecile.

Jon: Oh Lordy.

One hour later …

Cameron: Let’s briefly review what we’ve discussed so far.

Jon: Do we have to?

Cameron: Yes we do. I cannot seriously expect you to have kept up with my knight-jump connections and convoluted reasonings. The prophecy in Daniel chapter 4 was given so that people would know that “the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind.” This in itself indicates that the prophecy has a bigger fulfillment than just the one involving Nebuchadnezzar. And throughout the book of Daniel, we find prophecies about the establishment of God’s Kingdom under the rulership of his Son. Do you think it’s reasonable to conclude, then, that this prophecy in Daniel chapter 4 also has something to do with God’s Kingdom?

Jon: I still don’t see the connection with 1914.

LET MORE MEANDERINGS PASS

Cameron: Well, let’s go back to King Nebuchadnezzar. In the real fulfillment of the prophecy his rulership was interrupted when the tree was chopped down and left for seven times. That period of seven times ended when Nebuchadnezzar resumed his rulership. In the concocted second fulfillment of the prophecy, God’s rulership would be interrupted for a period of time—but not because of any deficiency on God’s part.

Jon: You said that the ‘kingdom of mankind’ is ruled by the Most High and that rulership was interrupted by the decree of the Most High. How can it not be ‘deficient’ on God’s part if God interrupts his own rulership?

Cameron: I’ll ignore your excellent question, Jon, because this is my imagined conversation and I can manipulate it as I see fit. In Bible times, the Israelite kings who ruled in Jerusalem were said to sit on “Jehovah’s throne.” So the rulership of those kings was really an expression of God’s rulership. In time, however, most of those kings became disobedient to God and most of their subjects followed suit. Because of the Israelites’ disobedience, God allowed them to be conquered by the Babylonians in 607 B.C.E. From that time on, no more kings represented Jehovah in Jerusalem. In that sense, then, God’s rulership was interrupted. Are you with me so far?

Jon: Um, no. Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonian in 587 B.C.E.

Cameron: So, as I said, 607 B.C.E. was when Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonians …

Jon: 587.

Cameron: That’s what I said, 607 … and this marked the beginning of the seven times, or the period when God’s rulership would be interrupted. At the end of the seven times, God would install a new ruler to represent Him—this time, someone in heaven. So the big question is: When did the seven times end? If we can answer that question, we will know when God’s Kingdom began ruling.

Jon: Ahh. So 1914 comes from starting to count ‘seven times’ from the wrong date.

Cameron: Exactly! You got it.

Jon: But how do we know how long ‘seven times’ is supposed to be?

Cameron: Well, I’m going to ignore that question, Jon, because I’ve just about got in my pioneer hours for this morning. During his earthly ministry, Jesus indicated that the seven times had not yet ended.* …

*Even though Jesus’ prophecy uses the future tense in Luke 21:24 where Jesus said: “Jerusalem WILL BE trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled,” and this prophecy has frack all to do with Daniel 4, we’ll pretend otherwise.

… So they must be a very long period of time. The seven times started hundreds of years before Jesus came to earth, and they continued until sometime after he returned to heaven. Remember, too, that the meaning of the prophecies in Daniel was not to become clear until Jehovah’s Witnesses appeared on the scene.* …

*Obey us or die.

… Interestingly, during the late 1800’s, sincere students of the Bible were moved to examine this and other prophecies very carefully. Even though their ideas about 1914 were completely wrong, we’ve re-written history so that it looks like they were right. By pure chance, World War 1 began and, over the next few decades, Jehovah’s Witnesses could alter their understandings about 1914 and Daniel’s prophecies to conform to those global events, thereby declaring that year as the one where God’s Kingdom began ruling in heaven. Now, I know this is probably a lot to digest . . .

Jon: Yes. I’m definitely getting a migraine.

Cameron: Don’t worry. It took me quite a few indoctrination sessions to see how all the disparate and disjointed pieces could be loosely cobbled together too. But at the very least, I hope our discussion has helped you to see that Jehovah’s Witnesses will doggedly hang on to any old nonsense.

Jon: For sure. I’ve always been impressed with that.

Cameron: And I can see that you’ll agree to just about anything so that I’ll go. You probably still have some questions. For example, we’ve established that the seven times relate to God’s Kingdom and that they began in 607 B.C.E. But how, exactly, do we know that these seven times ended in 1914? *

*See the appendix “1914—A Significant Year in Bible Prophecy” of the book What Does the Bible Really Teach? which leaves out the really important questions you want answers to like, ‘why use the wrong year for Jerusalem’s destruction?’ and ‘what’s with using a day-for-year formula when Dan. 4 doesn’t warrant it?’ and ‘why use a 360-day year in the calculation which is neither a lunar nor solar based year?’ and ‘why make Jesus’ future prediction about the Gentile times a fulfillment starting in the distant past?’ and much, much more.

Cameron: The Bible itself helps us to determine the precise length of the seven times. Would you like to examine that topic the next time I’m here?

Jon: Not only have I lost interest but I think I have lost the will to live. Please don’t ever speak to me again. … And I want my lawnmower back. NOW.


Do you have a particular Bible subject that you have wondered about? Are you curious about any of the beliefs or religious practices of Jehovah’s Witnesses? If so, think twice about asking your Jehovah’s Witness neighbor. Instead visit jwfacts.com.

Don’t miss, Part 2 of the Jon & Cameron Show!

An Open Email to the Governing Body

[Please click the link here: (http://ad1914.com/beyond-the-veil-the-explanation/) if you are having any trouble understanding what this is all about.]

October 2, 2014

Greetings from the Great Beyond and a Wishful Happy 100 years!

Dear Governing Body and Juniorgoverningbodycom Governing Body (Helpers),

As you know, I have been “earthly” dead for about 100 years. But that doesn’t mean that I haven’t been paying attention to what’s been happening down there where the rest of you live – if you want to call that “living. I’ve especially been keeping track of what you have been doing to my “baby” – the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society – since I’ve been gone.

If you haven’t figured it out by now, when I say “Great Beyond” I’m not talking about the North Pole or the Australian Outback. Nope, I actually mean “Beyond the Veil,” in the same sense that the Watch Tower used the expression so often after I died.

I died on Halloween, of course, in 1916. They all thought it was some kind of Halloween prank when I showed up here in a toga. That was the most embarrassing night of my life. I even had to explain it to some of the Apostles. I told them that a lot of Second Adventists, even Father Miller himself, believed we should wear “white ascension robes” on that final, fateful day. Then they asked me who “Father Miller” was. After that, I got lectured by Thomas, no less, on why we shouldn’t call anyone “Father” on earth, and why it’s even more important up here.

But I digress.

Speaking of “beyond the veil,” I hope you know that you got me in a lot of trouble with all that talk about me being able to communicate with you guys after I died, and how I’d be able to manage the Watch Tower Society from up here. How was it that Clayton Woodworth and George Fisher put it?

“Though Pastor Russell has passed beyond the veil, he is managing every feature of the harvest work.”

Of course, that was in, The Finished Mystery. Don’t even get me started on that crazy book! You guys kept saying I’d have special powers and privileges to manage the Society from here that I couldn’t manage from your side of the veil.

Well guess what? All that talk about me communicating with you guys after I died, well, let’s just say they take that kind of thing very seriously. They call it spiritism, and I ended up on Peter’s “watch list.” I couldn’t even get Veil-Mail privileges for nearly a century. Veil-Mail, of course, is what I’m using right now. But there are a lot of restrictions so that it won’t be used for any kind of spiritism:

  • Rule#1: All the people I knew in my lifetime on earth have to be dead already, and,
  • Rule  #2: I can’t tell you anything you shouldn’t already know, and,
  • Rule #3: I have to try to keep people from getting hurt by any problems I caused when I was down there. 
  • Also, if I score enough on Rule#3, I get more leeway on Rule#2.  Moses told me that none of the rules are really “set in stone.”

So, when I’m done, I’ll run the Veil-Mail spell-check, the sacred-secret-check, and the writing style updater. (I keep getting little pop-ups saying: “Change recommended: a little too 19th century.”)

I want to be honest, though. Watching my “earthly organization” get “hijacked” the way it did really burns me up –and that’s quite a trick up here in heaven.  But most of you (at least those who can read above a 3rd-grade level) probably know what happened after I died.

Yup, it was that loud-mouth, boastful, former law clerk (who never was a full-time “Judge”), Joe Rutherford. He ignored everything I told him and even defied what I wrote in my will before I died on that awful train ride. But, then, faster than you can change in the twinkling of an eye, that so-called “Judge” was already looking for loopholes and was gathering weak-willed lackeys around him. Then, he went and wrestled the corporation away from the very fellows that I specified should run it after my death. (Did I mention that he was never a full-time judge?)

That self-important back-stabber chased away all the other good and decent folks who were on the board working for me. Then he, along with that strange man, Clayton Woodworth (“CW”), and that lackey, George Fisher, took it upon themselves to “finish” my 7th volume of the Studies in the Scriptures. They didn’t have a clue. They never checked with anyone who knew what points I wanted to make. Have you read it? Really truly actually read it? That book should never have been called The Finished Mystery. The only mystery was why they ever published it. It was ridiculous and an embarrassment. And then as if to add insult to injury, they put my name on it, and called it “the posthumous work of Charles Taze Russell.” If I had been alive, I would have had them put in jail for slander and defamation of my character.

Of course they’re all dead now, but don’t think I’m going to forget how, just a couple years ago, 2012, you folks right now on the “Governing Body” demoted me —you defrocked me— right out of the “Faithful and Discreet Slave” class. And, of course, you just had to pick the 128th Annual Corporate Meeting of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania! Who do you think came up with that “class” explanation in the first place? It’s true that for those last 20 years, I changed it from a “class” to just me, so that I was the one-and-only faithful and discreet slave. So, I can see why you went back to my old “class” idea. But why’d you have to go and change it so it wouldn’t start until 1919? You realize that I died in 1916, right? So, as of 2012, I’m not even counted in that class anymore! I see you made it a lot more exclusive, too. You cut it down from 144,000 to only a few Governing Body members. I like exclusive. But then you go and kick me out of your club altogether by changing the rules.

Anyway, I need to tell you something important that I discovered, but it’s something you should have noticed yourselves. It started mostly with that “CW” –Crazy-Weird, Certifiably-Wacko– Clayton Woodworth.

When I got in trouble for all that “beyond the veil” talk, well, at first I wondered why I had to get blamed instead of, you know, Rutherford, Fisher, or CW.  Well, it was the Apostle Paul who really blamed this one on me. He told me that I was neither “discreet” nor “wise” nor “faithful” by publishing all that talk about how I was the one-and-only “faithful and discreet slave.” Paul told me that this was one thing that Rutherford got right when he finally changed it back to mean “all the living anointed Christians.” Evidently, I set the stage for this “beyond-the-veil” spiritism when I set myself up as someone so special. He said I enabled “I- belong-to-Apollos Syndrome.”

Of course, I also learned pretty quickly that you don’t argue with Paul. You won’t win. I tried to explain to him that it wasn’t really spiritism, exactly, because I wasn’t really dead. After all, I had long been preaching that the big resurrection of the Apostles and all the other “saints” and “Gospel Age overcomers” as I called them, were really alive, not dead — because they all got resurrected in 1878.

So Paul said. “Listen carefully. For one thing, spiritism is the attempt to communicate with spirits. It’s got nothing to do with whether they were dead, undead, resurrected, or whether they’re angels, demons, saints or sinners. It’s about spirits!

Then he asked me: “And what’s all this about a resurrection in 1878? How on earth did you come up with the idea that I was resurrected in 1878?” Well, for a minute there, I though he was really asking because he was impressed that we managed to figured out all those dates.

Well, you can imagine how my face lit up because I was always so proud of all that work, so I started to explain just how brilliant it was. I told him about how Father Miller’s, I mean William Miller’s, 1844 date for Christ‘s second coming really only corresponded to Jesus‘ birth in the previous age. Get it? Because “Jesus” technically wasn’t the “Christ” until he was baptized 30 years later! And so if you add Miller’s 1844 plus 30, you get  October 1874 — voila! Christ‘s second presence!  And since Christ didn’t get resurrected until 3 and one-half years after his baptism, then that would be like1874 plus 3.5 equals April of 1878.

And, as I’m telling Paul all of this he seemed excited, too. So I went on about how, when Jerusalem was destroyed by AD 70, well that was about 36.5 years after Christ died in 33, and how if you add April 1878 plus 36.5 you get October 1914, …..

And that’s when Paul cursed at me! He didn’t even let me finish. I was just getting ready to tell him about the 40 year harvest, Jubilee cycles, Jacob’s birth year, 6,000 years of man’s existence, and even the Great Pyramid. Paul actually cursed! He called me an athema, or something like that. (I never knew much Greek, but the way he said, I knew it was something bad.)

He said, “You didn’t get my letters? You never saw First Thessalonians?  Where I said: ‘Now as for the times and seasons brothers you need nothing to be written to you.’ What part of ‘you need NOTHING to be written to you’ did you NOT understand?”

And then he added the part that really hurt. He said: “And you told everyone I was resurrected in 1878? Couldn’t you take a hint from what I said to Timothy?”

“And their word will spread like gangrene. Hymenaeus and Philetus are among them. These men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred, and they are subverting the faith of some.”

I still wanted to tell Paul about the dates, but then you guys -I mean Rutherford, CW, and Ed Brenneisen– just made it worse, because you were still promoting the “veil” idea in 1924.  CW even got a letter complaining that all this “beyond the veil” talk was really spiritism. And of course CW answered with the same lame excuse I tried up here: that they were spirits, they weren’t really dead.

But then you guys just had to go one step further and promote a book that was supposed to be dictated by a fallen angel. And this wasn’t a mistake. You promoted it because it was a book that had been dictated by a fallen angel. And you were proud of it! You even arranged for the Watch Tower Society to give special prices for quantities of 10 or more on the same order.

At least Brenneisen–I liked him–he had the forethought to rename the book from “Seola” to “Angels and Women” so that people might buy it before they could find out its reputation. But after the complaints got to the Watch Tower, you –I mean CW at least–admitted that you were proud to have a book dictated by a demon, a fallen angel, because this fallen angel could provide new light about what the Nephilim and pre-Flood times were really like. CW just wrote back that it was OK since it was a fallen angel who must have wanted to get back into God’s organization.

Now, it’s true that, before I died, I might have mentioned the book to Brenneisen as “interesting,” but I never told him to revise and publish it, and I certainly never supervised the revisions.

That’s why I was so mad at CW! Just like with “The Finished Mystery,” he tries to hanging onto my frock and coattails to get a few extra sales by saying that I supervised the revision. Right there in his Golden Age, 1924 he says: that ‘under my “supervision it was revised and later published by one who was formerly my confidential associate.”

Well, I should have said something, because when Paul found out he nearly hit the ceiling. (And that’s another difficult trick up here.) Now, they were sure I was communicating with you guys, somehow. Paul was so angry he even looked down towards Brooklyn and yelled out “THIS REVISION IS A SNARE AND A RACKET!” I think he said it so loud that it nearly woke up that so-called Judge.

But that’s when I figured it out! CW never actually said that I supervised the revision when I was there on earth. And besides, Brenneisen worked on the revision after I died. And that’s when –like a millennium– it finally dawned on me:  CW really did think I was supervising everything from up here. That’s why they were so quick to claim The Finished Mystery was “the posthumous work of Charles Taze Russell.”  And that’s why he printed in the Golden Age that I had supervised the revision of “Angels and Women.”

Now, who or what CW was really communicating with I’ll never know, although I should have gotten a hint when he wrote me 50 pages worth of letters over one little doctrine he disagreed with. I should have just fired him then, but instead, we let him give just one more convention speech in 1913, before we laid him off for good.  And here’s what he says:

“I came directly under the influence of evil spirits, so much so that for three days I was as completely under demoniacal control as was Mrs. Eddy when she wrote Science and Health….I had prepared a 36 page book…in which…all Scriptures were arranged. .. I know now that all these Scriptures were suggested to my mind by the evil spirits. One of the suggestions was that Brother Russell was doing this to compel the Truth people to do just as he said in everything. Another was (and I believe this was the truth for these lying spirits do sometimes tell the truth)….

Well I don’t have to tell you the whole thing, I’m sure you can look it up in our Watch Tower 1913 Convention Reports. But CW went on like that about having a good book burning, about how he had trouble accepting that I really was that special individual: “That Servant” — you know, “the faithful and discreet slave” that Jesus would trust with all his belongings. (I used to like to have them capitalize it that way, when they called me “That Servant” although Paul reminded me that this probably wasn’t very discreet, either.)

Anyway, CW just got weirder and weirder, but I have to admit that whenever he’d go off into one of his “millennial twilight zones” he was very productive. Joe knew that CW could put a “Seventh Volume” together really fast, and then Joe put him on the new Golden Age magazine. Awake! you call it now. (That’s cute, the way you still abbreviate Awake! with a little “g” in your index.) You know, Joe must have started Golden Age just to show he was boss, too: because in my will I asked that no one start a second magazine, for fear it would detract from The Watch Tower. And I was sure right! I can’t believe some of the malarkey that the Golden Age printed:

No vaccinations? So soon after people just barely survived the Spanish Flu? Germs don’t cause disease? Electromagnetic radio wave cures? In the long run, it might have been crazier than “The Finished Mystery.” Well, maybe not. And then Joe did away with celebrating birthdays. Yeah, birthdays! Hundreds of thousands of poor JW kids would never know the joy of family gatherings and small amounts of personal recognition and special doses of family love. I loved birthdays.  Joe got rid of Christmas, too. And let me tell you guys – JC is still upset over that. JC likes birthdays too! If Joe ever makes it up here, I don’t want to be in the same room when those two meet for the first time. But then you guys will also have to account for Malawi, Mexico, Blood, Hypocrisy, Cover-Ups. You probably won’t even want to read my next Veil-Mail.

But back to the point, you might be wondering why I’m telling you about this 1924 book that you don’t even keep in your Kingdom Hall Libraries any more. Well, here’s why! By now you guys at the Watch Tower have had nearly 100 years to figure out this “beyond the veil” thing for yourselves. But I see you still can’t get rid of the idea.

Your book “Revelation– It’s Grand Climax At Hand.” What does it say?

…the resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today.

And The Watchtower even more recently:

It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today. Why is that important? Because the correct identity of the great crowd was revealed to God’s anointed servants on earth in 1935. If one of the 24 elders was used to convey that important truth, he would have had to be resurrected to heaven by 1935 at the latest. That would indicate that the first resurrection began sometime between 1914 and 1935. Can we be more precise?

So now you make the 24 elders the same as the 144,000, and you add 40 years to the 1878 resurrection and make it 1918 — and finally now you change it to “somewhere between 1914 and 1935.

And, by the way. I’ve seen them. The 24 elders are not the 144,000. I’m not supposed to tell you who they are, because well that’s, of course, being involved in communicating divine truths and Veil-Mail would just filter it out if I tried to tell you anyway. But I have to reveal that John thought that was so funny, that laughter broke out for about a half-hour in heaven. He said that he was never that good at math himself, but, come on! “24 equals 144,000?” he asked, and then added, “So what do they say about the four living creatures? That they’re the Great Crowd which no man is able to number?”

Oh and when you find out, you are really going to be surprised at the whole 144,000 idea, too. Turns out that I had that one wrong, myself, but at least I was closer than you. But you know what they say: “The light gets brighter and ….” Well, it’s bound to flicker, I guess, especially with some of the dimly lit, dim wits I’ve seen you put in charge over the last century.

Anyway, at least I hope you’ll finally get all that spiritism stuff out of there. Can’t believe you didn’t figure that out after 100 years. I mean, I know why I made so many mistakes. Because it was just me trying to run everything. But you guys have had like 17 Governing Body members once, and then it dwindled to 8, then 7, and now I look at the latest distribution list, with all those extras. You know, you might as well just settle for an even 12.  I mean, it’s got precedent. And we all know what you really want to remind everyone of, right?

I’ve got plenty more to say, but I’m going to a class on time management. Paul is going to explain to us about Thessalonians where it says “we the living shall not precede those who have already fallen asleep in death.” Turns out that it really has something to do with the fact that we’re not constrained by human time up here. I’m still trying to figure out if I was actually resurrected when I died or if it was many years after and that I was allowed to come back in time to watch you guys in “earth time” since 1916 until now. Well, it’s kind of deep, but I’ve got plenty of time to learn.

So, enjoy your Centennial. Believe it or not, I predicted that you might have some kind of remembrance of it in 2014. I mentioned the 100 years after 1914 twice, and printed letters about it. Really! Look it up. Of course, the only reason you’re celebrating at all is because I died before I ever saw how Deissmann figured out the secret behind the word “parousia.” But you’ve known that for 100 years now, and you still won’t clean it up! And that’s nothing compared to all those much more terrible things going wrong down there with my little “start-up.” Watch it! Wake up! Or you’ll just run it into the ground. You think I can’t see what you’re hiding?

Well, rest assured, I’ll write you again soon. This time, I won’t make it another 100 years.

Charles Taze Russell

P.S.  My buddies up here call me” Tazer” (I like it!) because they say I am “shockingly” honest and funny.

What is a Generation? Alex.

I’ll have 10 letter words for $800, Alex.

“A COHORT OF CONTEMPORARIES; AS A TIME SPAN IT’S OFTEN GIVEN AS 30 YEARS.”

“What is a Generation?” was the correct response that earned Sandie $800 in the Jeopardy game that aired on April 15, 2014. (Season 30, Episode 75)

That question aired on Jeopardy earlier today (as of this writing). But I was already thinking about that same question since yesterday evening. That’s because yesterday was the Memorial (as celebrated by JWs) and I had just attended in a rented banquet hall, where a wedding reception and a Sweet Sixteen birthday party had just occurred the day before.

It’s not common for the person giving the Memorial talk to mention either the date 1914 or 1935 anymore, and this speaker didn’t mention them either. The idea of the “this generation” was only mentioned in a very general way during the speaker’s conclusion and he happened to use the term in his closing prayer.  Yet, I happen to know that it was already on the minds of more than one person in the audience.  I know that because I spoke with one attendee just a few days prior to the Memorial on that very subject.

But mostly I know it because there was an awkward moment of excessive whispering at one point during the passing of the Memorial emblems that became a topic of discussion immediately after the closing prayer, even before I could make our way  to the aisle.

Here’s how it started.

The audience of at least 350 was made up of 2 congregations who rented the banquet hall. The speaker was a relatively young elder, probably about 40 years old, from one of the two congregations. Out of the 350, there was nary a nibble or a sip taken from any of the emblems.

But there was one exception. And it was done in such a way that no one could miss it.  It wasn’t so obvious with bread, but very obvious with the wine. There was a little table that started out with 6 glasses, all filled to the half-way point, to the exact same point. After the 6 servers completed the task of passing the wine across all the rows they brought the glasses back to the little table and it they were all still filled perfectly to the midpoint. No sips, no slips, no mishaps.

The servers sat down just off to the left of the stage facing toward the audience, and the speaker very ceremoniously walks 20 feet to that table, picks up a glass of wine and then over to the servers to offer it to each one of them. No takers. Then he walks back to the table, replaces it, and walks 20 feet back to the podium. Then in a move that looked like a mistake at first,  one of the servers gets up and in a deliberate slow-motion stride, picks up the same glass of wine that the speaker had just put down, and he walks 20 feet over to the speaker’s podium and offers it to the speaker. And the little boy next to explains to his sister in a whisper, “Oh yeah, they have to give it to him too.” I was thinking that it might be clever to whisper: “The rite of last refusal.” But, of course, I didn’t, and I made a mental note to look up exactly what the original phrase, “right of first refusal” means in contract or real estate law.

It surprised me to see the 40-year elder partake. And, judging by all the young whisperers and subsequent parental hushing, it surprised a lot of others, too. The same boy next to me asked “Why is he drinking it, Daddy?” There was even a “hmm?” and a barely audible mumble from the brother sitting to my right. And one of the two sisters right behind me whispered something like “That’s right.” showing that she (or they) already knew that he would partake.

There was a time when elderly visitors from Brooklyn Bethel were often invited to congregations to give the Memorial talk, and it was fairly common to see him partake. It’s often why they were invited. As a Bethelite, assigned to a Bronx congregation, I was more than once asked if I knew of any partakers who could be invited to give the Memorial talk in our congregation. Back then, the only other person who partook was a sister who, for reasons I won’t go into here,  no one wanted to believe was really “one of the anointed.”

Meanwhile, back at yesterday’s Memorial: After the closing prayer, and before I could manage to squeeze toward an aisle (about 20 tightly packed folding chairs in either direction).  I overheard a brother from the first row answering a question about the “age of the anointed generation.” From what I could tell, I think he was answering it wrong, from the current JW perspective,  but it was none of my business.  The idea behind the question had been recently brought up in a Watchtower magazine that  had just been studied a couple weeks ago. From the time of that magazine, the question had also been recently addressed to me personally in an online discussion forum that I participate in, from time to time.

The question arises because the Watchtower had created a direct connection between the “anointed” and the meaning of “this generation.”  And this person, because he was a relatively young elder, clearly begged the question, based on the Watchtower‘s specific comments. Along with repeating the new long-winded definition of “this generation,” the January 15, 2014 Watchtower said:

We understand that in mentioning “this generation,” Jesus was referring to two groups of anointed Christians. ,. . .[yet] not every anointed person today is included in “this generation” of whom Jesus spoke.”

The simple Jeopardy clue, above, highlighted to me just how ridiculously the Watchtower had twisted and stretched the natural meaning of a term like “this generation.” In the original context of Matthew and Luke, it appeared that it could refer to the time between 33 CE when Jesus made the statement, and 68 to 70 CE when Jerusalem was surrounded by encamped armies.  About 37 years passed  people of “that generation” might see “all these things occur.” (Matt 24, Mark 10, Luke 17 & 21) So a generation of 40 years might easily match what Jesus had in mind.

Another definition of generation — likely the one implicit in the Jeopardy clue —  is the span of time from a person’s birth to the time period when their own children are born, usually 25 to 35 years later, and then again from the time of those children to the time period when the grandchildren are born, and then on to the great-grandchildren, etc. These “generation” periods might average about 30 years each.

In other words, using a common definition of generation, we’ve already had 3 or 4 since 1914, and could easily squeeze in one or two, or even three more before the Watchtower‘s legalese-laden definition runs out.  For the Watchtower, “this generation” equals 3 to 6  “unstretched” generations.

In fact, if the Jeopardy question had been specifically about the current meaning of “this generation” to JWs, the clue would have to be changed. It would need to look more like this:


REFERS TO TWO GROUPS OF ANOINTED CHRISTIANS; THE FIRST GROUP WHO WERE ON HAND IN 1914, AND WHO READILY DISCERNED THE  SIGN OF CHRIST’S PRESENCE IN THAT YEAR, AND WHO WERE NOT ONLY ALIVE IN 1914, BUT WHO WERE ALREADY SPIRIT ANOINTED AS SONS OF GOD IN OR BEFORE THE YEAR 1914; AND THE SECOND GROUP WHO ARE ANOINTED CONTEMPORARIES OF THE FIRST GROUP, WHO WERE NOT SIMPLY ALIVE DURING THE LIFETIME OF THOSE IN THE FIRST GROUP, BUT WHO WERE ALSO ALREADY ANOINTED DURING AT LEAST PART OF OF THE TIME THAT THOSE IN THE FIRST GROUP WERE STILL ALIVE ON EARTH

Seems to me this generation might just run out by the time Alex Trebek could finish reading the clue.

It’s a question I have seen a few times online, twice directed toward me personally in the last couple of weeks, one of which I answered on my Facebook page. (See below.) The exact question, as it was put to me by a Witness, went like this: (She quoted verbatim from the January 15, 2014 Watchtower)

March 29th, 7:11am

In his detailed prophecy about the conclusion of this system of things, Jesus said: “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.” (Read Matthew 24:33-35.) We understand that in mentioning “this generation,” Jesus was referring to two groups of anointed Christians. The first group was on hand in 1914, and they readily discerned the sign of Christ’s presence in that year. Those who made up this group were not merely alive in 1914, but they were spirit-anointed as sons of God in or before that year.—Rom. 8:14-17. 16 The second group included in “this generation” are anointed contemporaries of the first group. They were not simply alive during the lifetime of those in the first group, but they were anointed with holy spirit during the time that those of the first group were still on earth. Thus, not every anointed person today is included in “this generation” of whom Jesus spoke. Today, those in this second group are themselves advancing in years. Yet, Jesus’ words at Matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of “this generation will by no means pass away” before seeing the start of the great tribulation. This should add to our conviction that little time remains before the King of God’s Kingdom acts to destroy the wicked and usher in a righteous new world.—2 Pet. 3:13.

March 29th, 7:12am

My question is, Do you know who among them (second group) still alive? And their specific age? I plan to include that in my comment in the watchtower study next week. Hope you can help me. Thanks- sister [name removed]

March 30th, 9:27pm [my response]

I have seen this same question come quite a few times, lately. I get the sense that some people ask the question as a means of trying to figure out just how long — at most — this system can last. But from a purely Christian standpoint, that can be a dangerous proposition. First, we can agree that the end can come at any time, and that no matter when that is, even many true Christians will be surprised. That day will come as a thief in the night. And it can be just as big a problem when we believe that we can identify the most distant point in the future when the end is expected. What will happen if, for some reason, our understanding even among Jehovah’s Witnesses, turned out to be mistaken? If shared, this could produce a stumbling block for other Witnesses and outsiders who might otherwise have shown interest and goodwill. I’m sure you understand that but I wouldn’t feel comfortable without mentioning it first.

The first thing you’d want to look for are any possible examples from the first group described. Remember that “The first group was on hand in 1914, and they readily discerned the sign of Christ’s presence in that year.” Unfortunately, it turns out that we don’t really know even one person who met that test in its most accurate sense. Technically, anyone associated with the Watchtower Society at that time (in 1914) still believed that the last days had started in 1799, and that Jesus’ presence had begun invisibly in 1874. 1914 was to be seen as the end of Christ’s invisible presence, a time when Bible Students (as we were called then) would now see Jesus face to face, visibly. There was no specific “sign” of Christ’s presence to discern that year, because no sign would be needed to see Jesus in person. This teaching remained until around 1930 and parts of it were not officially changed until 1943. So what the Watchtower means is that there were people who saw the “sign” of Jesus’ presence in 1914 even though they did NOT readily discern anything that was true or correct about it. We can assume at least, that the Watchtower means anyone who recognized ANY significance to World War I would be in that intended group. One person in that intended group, therefore, would have been Charles Taze Russell. He saw a significance to the Great War in 1914 (even if he gave it a false significance) and he then died in 1916. So he would be one of the first that would most likely meet the intention of the contemporary generations of anointed. Any who were anointed contemporaries of him are therefore a part of that second generation of anointed. We expect that would include persons like Joseph Rutherford and Frederick Franz. Therefore, some persons who are part of that second generation of anointed contemporaries have already died. (1942 and 1992, respectively.) However, to pick an ideal example of a person many might recognize as anointed who was also part of that first generation we could, again, pick Frederick W Franz. He was alive in 1914 and old enough to recognize it as a significant event during Jesus’ presence (even if not readily discerned for what it was, based on their current understanding of Christ’s presence). Franz began his association with the Watchtower Society around 1914. So now we have someone of the first generation who lived until 1992. Any anointed persons who were contemporaries with him would therefore also be part of that second generation. Therefore even a person who became one of these anointed as late as 1992 could technically be part of this second defined group of anointed. No one can specifically say if another person is anointed, however, it is true that the youngest member of the Governing Body (Brother Sanderson, who would now be 49), for example, was born in 1965, and could therefore be seen as fitting this situation — if we assume he was “of the anointed” between 1965 and 1992, using this case. Although interesting, I still think it’s a bad idea to publicize such information in the context of the generation Jesus spoke about. There is still a danger that persons could take such an example, and think it’s the same as saying that the system could potentially last until 2055, if the example (Sanderson) lives to be 90, or as late as 2085, if he lives to be 120. I know this might seem absurd to you, but it’s how a lot of persons tend to think. Hope this helps. And I hope you understand why my answer is probably a bit longer than you might have expected.

March 31st, 4:06am

Thank you so much for your help. Jah bless u.

very kind and informative answer. it really feed my mind. Thanks

March 31st, 10:39am

No problem. It’s an interesting question. Hope all is OK with you and your friends and congregation

[Note: above was slightly edited to avoid identifying participants, etc.]

RESOURCES: Books, Web Sites, Blogs, Forums, Videos – NEW! UPDATED!

BOOKS

WEB SITES

FORUMS

SOCIAL

VIDEOS

BOOKS

(Books/Booklets/Tracts/Brochures/Newsletters link)

The link takes you to a long list of books. Not all are recommended for purposes of studying chronology, but will give an idea of the many types of books out there about JWs. Some of the ones most well known for studying the chronology doctrines are highlighted in that list. In addition we list some of the best ones here, in no particular order:

The Gentile Times Reconsidered

The Gentile Times Reconsidered

Carl Olof Jonsson

Available online:
http://kristenfrihet.se/english/gtr4/contents.htm
Jehovah's Witnesses: Their Claims, Doctrinal Changes, and Prophetic Speculation. What Does the Record Show?

Jehovah’s Witnesses:…Prophetic Speculation

Edmond C. Gruss

Available online: (Preview)
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=193123230X
Apocalypse Delayed: The Story of Jehovah's Witnesses

Apocalypse Delayed

M. James Penton

Available online: (Preview)

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0802079733

Judgment Day Must Wait: Jehovah's Witnesses- A Sect Between Idealism and Deceit

Judgment Day Must Wait

Poul Bregninge

Available online: (No preview)
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1936411237
Crisis of Conscience

Crisis of Conscience

Raymond Franz

Available online:
khazarzar.skeptik.net/books/franz01
In Search of Christian Freedom

In Search of Christian Freedom

Raymond Franz

 Avaiable online:
https://www.watchtowerlies.com/linked/in_search.pdf
The Four Presidents of the Watch Tower Society (Jehovah's Witnesses)

The Four Presidents of the Watch Tower Society

Edmond C. Gruss

 Available online: (Preview)
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1594671311
signoflast

Sign of the Last Days – When

Carl O. Jonsson, Rud Persson

 Available online: No
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0914675095

Of course, this is far from a complete list.

INTERNET

(Websites/Blogs/Forums/Social/Video)

It’s easy to go to Google and search on the keywords: “1914, Watchtower” or “JW 607” or “overlapping generation” and find hundreds of links to try out. Many of the sites you will also do an excellent job covering  issues related to Jehovah’s Witnesses and Watchtower-related doctrines. We won’t try to list all of them, but we will try to cover all of the best ones known for their excellent coverage of the 1914 doctrine.

For good lists of JW-related sites in general, try the links at:  ex-jw.com/web-directory   There is also a good list of links that focus on JW outreach ministries at Make Sure Ministries. We reproduce those lists on this site, here: http://ad1914.com/general-jw-related-websites-and-jw-outreach-ministry-websites/ .

The following are some of the best ones that cover the Watch Tower chronology teachings:

jwfacts.com

Excellent site for coverage of most major JW issues, not just the chronology issues, of course. The site owner and creator, Paul Grundy, has generously allowed us to use several of his articles on this site. For the complete and most up-to-date articles, they should be viewed on his own site.

http://kristenfrihet.se/english/epage.htm

This site is owned and created by Carl Olof Jonsson, and reflects the most in-depth work on all the Watch Tower’s chronology-related subjects, and several others, too.
jeffros607

https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/

Excellent coverage of the related issues surrounding the 1914 doctrine. (Not 607 only) One if the highlights of this site is the excellent response to a slickly produced, but academically dishonest site that is popular among many online JWs. (The dishonest site is at: http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/607/ but portions of it have also been copied elsewhere. Some will find this approach as a quicker approach when asked to respond to sites such as the above or http://onlytruegod.org/jwstrs/607BCE.htm or http://pastorrussell.blogspot.com/2010/08/seven-times-2520-years-607-bce-1914-ce.html
 corior

http://corior.blogspot.com/

 Many of the articles on this site, especially those from Alan Feuerbacher, present unique and extremely well-researched information. (Alan was one of the persons, along with Rud Persson and others, who worked with Carl Olof Jonsson on his research.)
 Jehovah's Witnesses

http://www.jwstudies.com/jehovah_s_witnesses.html

This site, from Doug Mason, contains much more detailed research than one might guess at first sight. He covers many subjects, and is excellent on the 1914 doctrine. Also, his interactions with the Watch Tower Society on the subject reach back to the early 1960’s.

http://e-watchman.com/?s=1914

This is a blog by someone who claims to be a prophet. Whatever one thinks of such a claim, several of his pages on the 1914 teaching are very well-written, Scripturally sound, and thought-provoking. The link opens up several related posts on a single page.
interactivbibleca

http://www.bible.ca/cgi-bin/texis/webinator/search/main.html?query=1914+Watchtower

The site is about many Christian doctrines, and contains at least 40  excellent articles on Jehovah’s Witnesses ( http://www.bible.ca/indexJws.htm ). The link provided in the middle column returns 18 good articles about the 1914 teaching.
jwb

http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-dates/

The site is refreshingly straightforward, and well-written. About 9 excellent pages on 607 and 1914 from the main menu.
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http://watchtowerdocuments.org/?s=1914

The link to the left will return about a half a dozen excellent articles written with the insight about the Watch Tower doctrine-makers themselves. Barbara Anderson’s combination of experience, intelligence and accuracy is what makes these articles so valuable. Additionally, the gigabytes of collected and archived documents found in the site’s library ( http://watchtowerdocuments.org/document-library/ ) provide a wealth of often unexplored information for the researcher.
freeminds

http://www.freeminds.org/history/history.htm

Randy Watters’ site is an amazing collection of information. Too big to organize. The list of articles that appear when clicking the link to the left gives some idea of the scope.

We could never expect to cover the many excellent stand-alone pages that are often part of larger sites, or even great articles on the subject that one can find on wikipedia or publications found on archive.org, etc. Here are just a few more examples, however, that you won’t want to miss:

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatology_of_Jehovah’s_Witnesses
  • http://www.jwstruggle.com/2012/01/a-problem-with-1914/
  • http://www.4jehovah.org/why-1914-ad-and-607-bc-are-false/
  • http://taze.co/2015/06/05/are-we-living-in-the-last-days/
  • https://ia700705.us.archive.org/26/items/JerusalemWasNotDestroyedIn607B.c/jerusalem-607.pdf
  • http://www.towerwatch.com/articles/the_1914_doctrine.htm (Jan Haugland)
  • http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/the-1914-obsession-watchtower-clings-to-flawed-teaching-in-first-magazine-of-2014 (John Cedars)
  • http://www.cftf.com/1914/index.html (David Reed)
  • http://www.watchman.org/articles/jehovahs-witnesses/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-history-of-1914/
  • http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/11914.html
  • http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness8a.htm
  • and many, many more!

FORUMS

There are many types of forums online where beliefs of all kinds are discussed, and there are gems of information in many of these.This includes answers.yahoo.com, yuku.com, beliefnet.com (read only as of October 31, and many others.

jwn

The largest of these forums is called “Jehovah’s Witnesses Discussion” (JWD) and often also called “Jehovah’s Witnesses Net” (JWN). It’s at www.jehovahs-witness.com (recently moved from .net). It’s huge, but well managed. It has been around many years, and a lot of excellent, intelligent comments have been collected. Unfortunately, they are often difficult to find again, even with an adequate search tool on the site. Over time we may try to extract some of the more interesting ideas posted there, and make them more accessible by organizing some of the links and getting permission from posters to through some organization There is also the common forum-specific problem of those high level of argumentation that often end in the dramatic removal of accounts. This has affected even the best of commenters.

SOCIAL MEDIA and VIDEOS

The best of these are usually already associated with a website or blog, but the best way to take advantage of them is to do a search on Vimeo, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc., using a combination of keywords including, 1914, JW, and Watchtower. The advantage of these tools is based on the fact that most JWs do not care about the problems with 1914. Sites like this one and many like it are too confusing. Once something gets complex, the Watch Tower doctrine wins by default, because it’s the one that can’t be seriously questioned.

Most JWs won’t give more than a few seconds of serious thought to such controversies. That gives the upper hand to the quick, pithy statement in a Twitter feed, or the title and image of a shared Facebook item or a “meme” that gets a message across in 5 seconds or less, but with an image that makes the message stick for at least a few more seconds. (Just a few Internet seconds are hard to get, and therefore very valuable.)

I’ve seen evidence of at least a quarter-million JWs who have Google+, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram accounts for example, and at least half of them also belong to forums or follow accounts where the 1914 controversy has come up.

Keeping track of some of the available video resources is especially worthwhile because video has the ability to draw JWs into serious thought about their teachings, when many of those same persons would have studiously avoided reading anything that promoted serious thought about their teachings. Also, JWs are trained to learn passively from talks, and trained to interact with rational-sounding argument in their house-to-house or Bible study ministries when a non-JW confronts them about their beliefs. Besides a message can be conveyed before a Witness even figures out if it was from a pro-JW site or not. More video resources should be created for these reasons.

Some good videos also make use of humor, sometimes to a ridiculous extent. We don’t see this as a problem and include them below.  Some of the more serious ones have a different problem to watch out for. We’ve noticed that a much higher percentage of videos get their facts wrong when compared with persons who create written documentation and evidence. Still, these are quite useful for sharing with others who need some extra background about the problems and controversies, but won’t read about it.

JW’s- Your New Tool to Explain 1914

JW.ORG ~ 1914 Is A Lie Covering Up A Huge Mistake!

1914 and the Elders Wife [JW.org]

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